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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 22 2008, 01:58 PM (803 Views) | |
| Swifty | Mar 22 2008, 01:58 PM Post #1 |
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The Mustang II is a Mustang too!
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Who here likes their cars to be in scale with one another? In other words, they want their Impalas huge and their VWs tiny. My biggest problem with JL has always been the scale issue. I'm not a fan of dwarfism on full size cars (like the Matchbox '63 Cadillac hearse) or gigantism on compact cars (like the JL Honda CRX). This is one area that Greenlight has gotten right since day 1. |
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| Lovemy1971Camaro | Mar 22 2008, 02:05 PM Post #2 |
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I like the idea of true 1/64 personally. It would be nice to see a tiny Pacer next to a full size Chevy pickup truck. You're right, Greenlight has seemed to get this right from day one. I think true 1/64 also helps eliminate all the distortion you see in some of the Johnny Lighting cars. Like the new Chevy wagon they have out. Just a little too narrow for my tastes. This is just one example of course. |
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| Swifty | Mar 22 2008, 02:13 PM Post #3 |
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Not only is the Caprice wagon too narrow, and they chopped the rear of the car off to fit it into the packaging! |
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| bob8748 | Mar 23 2008, 07:44 AM Post #4 |
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I agree. Put th Karman ghia next to a school bus for example.
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| james_autos | Mar 23 2008, 09:32 AM Post #5 |
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I prefer die-casts to be in scale with one another, and not just sized to fit in the packaging. Siku springs to mind as being the most accurate, scaling all of their cars to 1:55, which is why I use them on my layout. Greenlight are better than JL at scaling their cars properly, but I can think of one or two that don't look right, one being the '79 Corvette, which is tiny! |
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| jedimario | Mar 23 2008, 02:45 PM Post #6 |
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I the answer here is pretty obvious
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| Lovemy1971Camaro | Mar 23 2008, 08:16 PM Post #7 |
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I think this one was pretty much a no brainer! Unfortunately I don't see Johnny Lightning changing their ways. For one, they'd have a lot of retooling to do if they actually wanted to make all their casting accurate.
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| craftymore | Mar 23 2008, 08:24 PM Post #8 |
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It would be nice if JLs AMC Gremlin was not as wide as the clamshell 73 Carprice. I guess all we can do is to complain untill the car is recast in correct proportions. Scale is the only real complaint detail wise that JL misses on an annual basis. |
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| Swifty | Mar 23 2008, 08:55 PM Post #9 |
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11 to 0 so far. Looks like correct scale is a selling point to more people than just me! That's why I've really come to love Greenlight. If I'm not mistaken the Corvettes were among Greenlight's earliest castings, and may have been manufactured before they decided to go to 1/64 true scale only. Or maybe the '79 Corvette really is at 1/64 (I don't know- I don't have one in my collection to check on).
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| James | Mar 23 2008, 11:38 PM Post #10 |
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This brings up the question "why do so many people dislike Jada?" I have not checked but some one mentioned to me that they are a clopser to 1/64 on most of there cars then most of the other diecast companies. Or is what we want a consistant scale, pick one and have all your castings match it. If we got a constant scale we would never see a Chevy Bus or the Box truck in the line up. But yes it gets a little wierd when you park an 59 Eldorado next to a VW beetle or a Gremlin. Now the Pacer is supposed to be as wide as an Eldorado but definately not as long.
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| Swifty | Mar 23 2008, 11:59 PM Post #11 |
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Jada's are mostly at 1/55-1/50 scale, much larger than 1/64. What comes closer to 1/64 are the '60s Cadillacs they do. They also subscribe to the blisterpack method of sizing cars, though some earlier issues (like the Astro) are smaller than later offerings. |
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| ivantt | Mar 24 2008, 10:42 AM Post #12 |
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As many of you would know from postings by me at the Garage, I am big on proper proportions of a casting. I'm not so concerned about one precise scale, but I certainly get irked when I see a car that doesn't "look" correct. Too narrow is the big reason I have not bought many JL's. Also, "high headed" cars really bug me because it throws off the entire look. This is a real pet peeve of mine because designers and the toolmakers keep getting this wrong. Why can't they see it when window lines are way too tall or bodies way too slim? Even though I always say you have to breath through your nose and remember they are just toys, I won't buy cars that look conspicuously wrong. Example: It took me a long time to buy a JL 2005 type Mustang, because the front end is too flat and squared off and they missed the very bulging hood completely! The backlite is huge--a hatchback Mustang? I noticed the casting looked wrong as soon as I glanced at it. I like the Mustang very much and was very disappointed, but since I do like the car so much, I finally relented and bought some for my collection. But they'll stay in my storage case won't get any camera work!I had to VOTE for YES on the scale issue. I'd prefer large cars to be larger than compacts. Or at least make all of the same type cars the same size.....Mattel surely didn't do that with the various years of GTO's and Corvettes for example, and they look silly if you park one of each year next to each other. Good topic , and it shows that collectors really DO want accurate and scaled cars.
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| James | Mar 24 2008, 06:42 PM Post #13 |
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| craftymore | Mar 24 2008, 07:34 PM Post #14 |
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After reading this thread, this got me to wonder. Does anyone directly affliated with JL or LC2 read the threads on the Garage? |
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| seveland | Mar 24 2008, 08:20 PM Post #15 |
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I like true scale. i hope Greenlight continues to grow and will one day include more common cars like "frsh cherries", pickups and SUVs, and even big rigs since ERTL seems to be doing less and less in that field. |
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| Lovemy1971Camaro | Mar 24 2008, 08:30 PM Post #16 |
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Probably, but not often. Though I can't verify that they do. |
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| Swifty | Mar 25 2008, 05:01 AM Post #17 |
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Exactly! I had the same problems with the JL '05 Mustang casting, as voiced in this thread when the casting was still new: http://swiftysgarage.net/index.php?showtopic=59 That said, I wish my Mustang was a hatchback. It's design is perfect for one, and it would increase the day to day practicality of the car substantially. They've done hatchback 'Stangs before, and as long as a 4 cylinder motor never becomes available in the Mustang ever again they'll be fine. |
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I think this one was pretty much a no brainer! Unfortunately I don't see Johnny Lightning changing their ways. For one, they'd have a lot of retooling to do if they actually wanted to make all their casting accurate.


That's why I've really come to love Greenlight. If I'm not mistaken the Corvettes were among Greenlight's earliest castings, and may have been manufactured before they decided to go to 1/64 true scale only. Or maybe the '79 Corvette really is at 1/64 (I don't know- I don't have one in my collection to check on).
I like the Mustang very much and was very disappointed, but since I do like the car so much, I finally relented and bought some for my collection. But they'll stay in my storage case won't get any camera work!

2:12 PM Jul 11