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Are Plastic Body Vehicles Diecast?
Topic Started: Apr 22 2008, 08:32 PM (554 Views)
James
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A couple of the plastic body and chassis John Deere Trucks, one Ford and one Dodge. Which begs to have this question asked

"Are plastic body cars and trucks considered diecast?"

We all make comments about how much we like collecting diecast, or are addicted to diecast collecting, but diecast is a process of manufacturing and could pertain to just about anything that one could make from ashtrays to salt and pepper shakers!

IMHO, the plastic bodied cars and trucks are not diecast in a true sense the way a Yamaha snowmobile is not a SkiDoo, or ASA is not an aspirin, but caught up in the broad aspect of the collection, a few plastic bodied vehicles in your collection does nothing but add to the completeness of the collection. But boy does the detail suck on these, it just isn't there with plastic. From 6 feet away they look pretty good but when you get close, it looks like a bar of soap.

Don't get any cost saving ideas ERTL and make all your castings plastic, they would be a very hard sell to us fans. :angry:
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I bought a ERTL green F150 with tan trim and did not realize that it was plastic until I opened it up. More than a bit disapointed at that moment. i think the new HW audi has a plasitc body as well.

I would say no, they are not diecast. They are imposters that cost the same price as others in the same scale. It's not what I'm looking for in small scale unless it is packaged telling the buyer that it is plastic, like the newer Siku agriculture stuff now is. Then I don't mind paying for it if it's marked that's it is plastic and looks accurate.
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Apr 22 2008, 08:46 PM
I bought a ERTL green F150 with tan trim and did not realize that it was plastic until I opened it up. More than a bit disapointed at that moment. i think the new HW audi has a plasitc body as well.

I would say no, they are not diecast. They are imposters that cost the same price as others in the same scale. It's not what I'm looking for in small scale unless it is packaged telling the buyer that it is plastic, like the newer Siku agriculture stuff now is. Then I don't mind paying for it if it's marked that's it is plastic and looks accurate.

yeah, HW does that quite often, I have several chevy belairs that are plastic, and it is strange that the same casting comes in metal too. And the Chrome one is plastic.

I agree with you 100% A few here and there if they are accurate or some well done fantasy vehicle like a batmobile or ghostbusters, is OK but definately not as a steady diet.

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James, you have a pm.
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James
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Apr 22 2008, 09:06 PM
James, you have a pm.

Thanks and returned, your serve sir! :D
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Don't get fresh with me young man!

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Not diecast- either the body or the base needs to be metal for it to be considered a diecast car. That said they're still 1/64 and we still discuss them on this forum. ;)

Some other all plastic examples: Mini-Lindy from the '70s

Plastic bodies/metal bases: Hot Wheels uses this technique periodically, also Novacar (owned by Majorette now, was originally a Portuguese firm), and finally the Majorette Deluxe from the early '90s. The Deluxe were the first premium 1/64 diecast cars (Matchbox Premiere notwithstanding- those were existing castings dressed up...you know, like Hot Wheels Classics today), and retailed far more than anything on the market at the time in 1/64 (approximately $6). They used plastic because they could get more details into it- hoods and doors opened, jeweled lights- they went all out on these! Too bad they bombed in the marketplace.

http://www.breithaupts.com/totc251.htm
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In our "Encyclopedia of Small Scale Diecast Motor Vehicle Manufacturers", we included plastc if the models had a metal base , such as Aurora and a few others.
But, plastic models can also be made via the diecasting process; that of pouring liquid material into a die to form the finished product which is the same operation as using metal. It seems that the catchall term "diecast" now is associated only with metal (?)

This brings up an interesting bit of trivia. There is an easy way to determine if a car is metal or plastic. Sometimes the finished casting is hard to differentiate. Years ago, I read in Model Auto Review that "if you put the model under your lower lip and it feels warm , it is plastic. If it is cold, it is metal! This makes sense since plastic easily adjusts to room temperature while metal doe not!
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