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| Car Of The Day: October 19, 2010; Racing Champions '58 Edsel Citation | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 19 2010, 01:17 AM (834 Views) | |
| Swifty | Oct 19 2010, 01:17 AM Post #1 |
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The Mustang II is a Mustang too!
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![]() Today's car of the day is Racing Champions' 1958 Edsel Citation. ![]()
![]() For more information and pictures of the real car please visit: Edsel Citation ![]() Here's a casting from the Racing Champions tooling bank I wouldn't mind seeing in the Johnny Lightning range! There aren't enough Edsels in small scale. ![]()
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| Firehawk73 | Oct 19 2010, 01:58 AM Post #2 |
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I know why the Edsel failed. It was a very overprice ugly car. I can't blame the people for not buying it. I would much rather have the '58 Chevy Impala or a '58 Buick or Pontiac. They were much better looking cars than the Edsel. |
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| ivantt | Oct 19 2010, 02:37 AM Post #3 |
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New casting? Quick! Take it apart!
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Some very valid points! I'm sure you're too young to remember the Edsel, but you opinions probably are very much on the mark. Edited by ivantt, Oct 19 2010, 02:38 AM.
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| Sak | Oct 19 2010, 08:27 AM Post #4 |
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Ezekiel 25:17
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Oh, I don't think it's so bad. Compared to the tailfins ON TOP OF tailfins on the 1957 Dodge? Compared to the belt line trim on some of the 1955-56 Mercurys? True, there was nothing like that horse collar grille, ever- but it's a testament of the kind of styling bureaucracy that infested Ford in those days. Come to think of it, that symbolized the whole project, start to finish. There were MANY reasons why Edsel failed. Many. I certainly wouldn't mind having one, by the way. Preferably a 1960 model. If JL does this one, they're gonna have to fix that wing window. The one on the convertible issue was clear. |
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| Swifty | Oct 19 2010, 10:11 AM Post #5 |
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The Mustang II is a Mustang too!
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Agreed! |
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| James | Oct 19 2010, 03:24 PM Post #6 |
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Mr.Bowtie
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overpriced possibly, ugly, a matter of personal opinion, I think it is a very good looking automobile, and I never understood why it failed to sell.
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| Pegers | Oct 19 2010, 04:35 PM Post #7 |
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Pony Car
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the downfall of this car was not due to the body styling.the car was a rolling piece of junk.people learned early on you could count on many trips to the dealership for mechanical repairs. most of the original owners traded them in for other cars. a few of my friend's dads brought them new.and they said it was the sorriest thing they ever brought.but do to having big families they where stuck with them.i remember many trips to the parts store.with the trans buttons in the center of the steering wheel.its hard to tell how many people cooked the trans due to:when in a pinch.they tried to beep the horn but shifted the trans. in the late 60s when guys that wanted to have one.they knew they had to find 3 or 4 of the same body style to put together one good one. sorry about getting off the topic about the casting. |
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| James | Oct 19 2010, 06:34 PM Post #8 |
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Mr.Bowtie
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Thanks Pegers, I never knew any one who owned one. |
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| Swifty | Oct 19 2010, 09:51 PM Post #9 |
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I love hearing the history of the real cars the little ones are based on! Not too many Edsels left- I can't remember the last one I saw! |
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| craftymore | Oct 19 2010, 10:02 PM Post #10 |
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Support your local demo derby.
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They are good for one thing and ya know I had to go there. This from around 1998 at a derby in Wisconsin. ![]() Basically from a derby perspective, the same as any other full size '57-'59 Ford. Full Frame+stock Leafsprings=Mean Derby Car. |
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| pjedsel | Oct 19 2010, 11:29 PM Post #11 |
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Muscle Car
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I was thrilled when Racing Champions came out with the '58 Edsel Citation - and I wouldn't mind seeing it retooled by JL (as noted, it does need a bit of work if it were used again). I really like the black and red version that Racing Champions did as well as the Allen Park Police Car and Milwaukee Fire Chief Car. As well as seeing JL use this casting, I would love to see M2 do a '58 Edsel Wagon and a '59 Ranger. There is no denying that the '58 with the teletouch transmission was a major problem. It was dropped on the '59 and '60 models. It also came out at a time when the car market was shifting a bit - FoMo Co tried to put it as a middle car between Ford and Mercury but pricewise not much difference...and not a great need for another full size car - one wonders if it had been Falcon sized what might have happened as buyers were beginning to notice the smaller cars. For many years I owned a '59 Ranger - one of the best cars I have owned - one, solid car compared to the cars of today. Mine had a 292 so not the biggest motor but ran nice and smooth. In my early high school days, one of my dream cars had been a '58 Edsel Corsair - sat on a used car lot and I drooled over it often but not enough money in the bank account in those days to buy any car. Once I graduated and had a better paying job I picked up a '51 Studie for $50 and then found an Edsel. Thus I went from a '51 Studebaker Land Cruiser to a '59 Edsel Ranger - and wish I still had both of them. Edited by pjedsel, Oct 19 2010, 11:30 PM.
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| ivantt | Oct 20 2010, 02:03 AM Post #12 |
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New casting? Quick! Take it apart!
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pjedsel---Now that's a good story! That's the kind of stuff I don't read or hear about Edsel owners.
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| Sak | Oct 20 2010, 06:58 PM Post #13 |
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Ezekiel 25:17
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I know someone who owns one- a guy around the corner from my sister-in-law. In his driveway's a weathered, but very much intact 1959 Villager, in white. I think I might go and ask him. |
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| Dragnet_Supporter | Nov 2 2010, 04:06 PM Post #14 |
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Gaudy or not...I like the look. I don't have this casting, not even the police version. But if JL retooled it, I would buy it! |
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| Sak | Nov 3 2010, 04:40 AM Post #15 |
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Ezekiel 25:17
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I do like the 1958 Ranger that HW cast. Very nice. |
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| juantoo3 | Nov 3 2010, 11:50 AM Post #16 |
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Oh yeah, the Mercury sucking a sour lemon! I do love Edsel wagons...all of them...but my first Edsel crush was also a 59 Villager wagon...no 292 though...475, 4V. It had a regular old column shift automatic. The teletouch shifter was a p.i.t.a for a lot of folks, but it wasn't the concept...mopars had pushbutton automatic trannies for years after fomoco gave up on them. Edsel also pioneered these goofy self-leveling shocks, the same updated p.i.t.a.s on a lot of late '90's Lincolns that caused unnecessary problems...and to think how many customizers think its cool to 'bag' a car, if they only knew... Edsel suffered from a lot of things, bureaucracy was probably the worst, but marketing and engineering were really out of step with practical reality. Did you guys know the same woman whose name was chosen for the Thunderbird was tapped again for a name for the Edsel...and in time the company chose instead to go with Henry's grandson's name...who as I recall was CEO at the time...Edsel Ford. I forget the woman's name, but the name she sold the company for the car was 'utopian turtletop.' Just a piece of inconsequential automotive history... |
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