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Question on loose storage
Topic Started: May 10 2012, 03:19 PM (1,750 Views)
SLWPAR
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Hey all, have a question about storage of loose vehicles. My entire collection is loose and approximately 1/3 are displayed in Carney acrylic display cases. The remaining 2/3 are in Jammers 48 car cases. Over the years, they have been moved around from one location to another and I noticed while going through the cases last night that some cars appeared to have paint issues on the bumpers, etc... that were not there before. Most of the issues are not noticeable and it's less than 10 cars with this problem. Basically, I'm trying to figure out a way to protect them while inside of the case from rubbing and hitting the walls. The only solutions I've thought of we're wrapping nicely in tissues or another soft fabric, or using plastic hobby/Jewelry bags.

The plastic jewelry bag idea is the one which I prefer the most. I'm aware that some plastics emit a gas which might be harmful to the cars over time. Would the bags that are sold, say in the crafts department of Wal-Mart be a safe bet?

If anyone has any other ideas or suggestions, please let me know! Thanks, Joe
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roadwarrior
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Try using some packing peanuts to hold them in place
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GeorgeT
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I use those small bags from the craft stores, the kind that you can seal up, BUT I don't seal the bags.
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juantoo3
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There are a lot of issues with different plastics interacting and its always a crapshoot. Your biggest problems will be with soft "real rider" type rubber wheels interacting with hard acrylic plastics.

I typically lay a bed of tissue (I use the plain old hospital type nose wipes with no lotions or potions in them), and then wrap each car in dollar store 120 to a box sandwich baggies. I've been doing this for two years, and variations for almost ten years, and it works well for me. The little ziploc craft store baggies are OK I suppose, I don't like them because they are too stiff to fit well in the slots and I'm afraid that in rough travel the zippers may still scratch the paint. I don't have any experience to back that up, just personal preference combined with cost...50 cents versus a penny or less, each.
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Billy Kingsley
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At one point in time, my plan was to put each car in a trading card "penny sleeve" and tape it shut...they are meant for long term storage of cards, which being cardboard are much more likely to have an adverse reaction, so they are pretty well inert. I only did three or four cars, around 1997. When I took them out again the next time in 2008, they were fine. The cars were not damaged and they didn't react at all. However, this would only work with standard size cars. Larger or longer vehicles wouldn't fit, as they are trading card sized, naturally. Luckily, they do only cost one cent each. They do attract dust, though.
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If you want a cheap solution put one cotton ball on each end of the casting. It works if the car is just a bit shorter than the space in the jammer slot.
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SLWPAR
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Great ideas so far! Has anyone here used Hot Cases? Found this website while Google searching... They look neat.
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JustDavid
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I have a bunch of my cars stored in the little baggies from Jo-Ann's but they are sealed. Guess I need to go open them up.
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May 10 2012, 06:59 PM
Great ideas so far! Has anyone here used Hot Cases? Found this website while Google searching... They look neat.
One of the guys at the club has whole purple RL collection in one of those. I guess its good enough for vintage redline cars they can't be bad. I think its the cost them that some of us can't handle considering the size of our loose collection. They would be great for those hard to find and rare cars in your collection.
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I'm not familiar with Hot Cases, but yeah, cost is a big thing when you're talking two thousand plus loose cars, not counting three full boxes of "junk."

I see high end guys using the black spongy foam in various ways, that stuff might be good...I don't know. I know I have seen black foam stick to stuff it wasn't supposed to in the past in other uses, in fairness it might not be the exact same foam (different makers use different recipes). That has always made me think twice about that stuff.
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I have seen people place styrofoam in the jammer cases so the cars have a cushion in front and behind. I like the cotton ball idea myself. Wish I thought of that before. I wrapped most everything in paper towels before I moved last fall...very time consuming.

My only issue with plastic in the past has been with the rubber tires. This was not inside plastic bags though, it was in the plastic 6 car JL cases...which was kind of scary. The rubber tires started eating into the plastic of the cases and becoming stuck after sitting in the cases for about a year or so without being taken out, or no protective layer underneath.

I have different plastic cases now, and the cars have only been in them maybe 4 or 5 months. I didn't put any protective layer down for the rubber tires though. I'm thinking I should do this soon though when I go in to make some new arrangements and add new cars. I would be grateful for suggestions here as well.
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Dean-o-mite
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I use a foam pad that comes in strips, on a huge roll, with a sticky backing. I actually have no idea what the original intent for the product is, but it works amazingly well in the Jammer cases, for keeping cars from banging the sides. I've had two huge rolls of the stuff for many years, and I can't even remember where I got them. I would guess a hardware store would have something like this, with the weather-stripping stuff, but that is just a guess.

Each strip covers 2/3 of a cubby-space, so three strips (with one cut in half) will pad two slots. The sticky backing sticks well, but isn't permanent, so they can be re-adjusted, if necessary...or at least they can be within a few seconds of application. I haven't tried removing one after days/weeks/months/years.

Here's what the roll looks like:
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And a padded Jammer case:
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May 11 2012, 08:29 AM
I have different plastic cases now, and the cars have only been in them maybe 4 or 5 months. I didn't put any protective layer down for the rubber tires though. I'm thinking I should do this soon though when I go in to make some new arrangements and add new cars. I would be grateful for suggestions here as well.
The rubber tire thing is an ongoing issue that you just need to watch for. I've seen the tires melt the rims inside a sealed blister...even on high end cars. From what I've read it has to do with the softening chemical in the rubber tires leaching onto the harder plastic next to it. So I am thinking any kind of neutral separator...even a thin sheet of *non-acid* tissue paper...should do the trick. I figure with the folded up nose tissue and the sandwich baggies, if the tires should react with the baggies (they haven't yet) the baggie is expendable and should be relatively easy to clean off, and the tissue actually helps keep the car away from the sides of the case. It just isn't a very photogenic way to store them, but it seems effective for me.

The ultimate cases I would think to be glass, but then moving them is a whole 'nother issue. They would have to be built in place with no intention of moving them. Also not such a good idea around kids. But that is the only "common" inert material that would about guarantee no chemical interactions.
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Dean-O-mite
May 11 2012, 08:40 AM
I use a foam pad that comes in strips, on a huge roll, with a sticky backing. I actually have no idea what the original intent for the product is, but it works amazingly well in the Jammer cases, for keeping cars from banging the sides. I've had two huge rolls of the stuff for many years, and I can't even remember where I got them. I would guess a hardware store would have something like this, with the weather-stripping stuff, but that is just a guess.

Each strip covers 2/3 of a cubby-space, so three strips (with one cut in half) will pad two slots. The sticky backing sticks well, but isn't permanent, so they can be re-adjusted, if necessary...or at least they can be within a few seconds of application. I haven't tried removing one after days/weeks/months/years.

Here's what the roll looks like:
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And a padded Jammer case:
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That's actually a pretty good idea, Dean!

It wouldn't work for me though, because sometimes my cases are standing up, sometimes on their sides, and I'm constantly shuffling them around. They way I have them now, if I had to pack up and move it is a matter of stacking them and going....maybe taping the doors shut.
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All my jammered cars (except Matchbox GMC tow trucks, they're a prefect fit) are in their pocket wrapped in a tissue. Keeps them from moving much in any direction and the case can be moved without worrying about the cars inside.
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The last time I moved (a couple of years ago), I opted to wrap the cars in the "soft" two-ply paper towels, which seemed to work fine (I used to wrap the non-cased ones in sets of two, using three sheets, bent into a U-shape after rolling - which was not a good idea since one set managed to chip the paint on each other). The paper towels aren't cheap and take longer, but my collection is on the smaller side, and I prepare for the scenario where someone sends my cases careening down a hillside.
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Welcome to the Garage, the_weatherman! :thumbup: :wave: :)
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May 11 2012, 09:38 AM
The last time I moved (a couple of years ago), I opted to wrap the cars in the "soft" two-ply paper towels, which seemed to work fine (I used to wrap the non-cased ones in sets of two, using three sheets, bent into a U-shape after rolling - which was not a good idea since one set managed to chip the paint on each other). The paper towels aren't cheap and take longer, but my collection is on the smaller side, and I prepare for the scenario where someone sends my cases careening down a hillside.
Welcome to the garage weatherman :thumbup:

This was my scenario as well. And yes, even the cheapest paper towels can add up when you wrap hundreds of cars. I packed plastic bags all around them, extra layers of cardboard, and prayed the movers didn't mess them up. Of course, which box looked all scrunched up but my BWF box. I was a bit freaked out, but all the cars came out fine thanks to the extra layering.

One of my wooden display cases was pulled apart at the seems, that was the worst of it. I had one wooden case coming apart from the dampness in the basement where I previously lived, and needed repairing anyway. Some wood glue, very thin nails, and a slow steady hand on the hammer got them both back together. They are hanging filled with police cars, and no issues. I did hang the worst damaged case on the bottom though. That way if it gives way, it doesn't have far to fall, and won't hit any other cars on the way down.
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the_weatherman
May 11 2012, 09:38 AM
The last time I moved (a couple of years ago), I opted to wrap the cars in the "soft" two-ply paper towels, which seemed to work fine (I used to wrap the non-cased ones in sets of two, using three sheets, bent into a U-shape after rolling - which was not a good idea since one set managed to chip the paint on each other). The paper towels aren't cheap and take longer, but my collection is on the smaller side, and I prepare for the scenario where someone sends my cases careening down a hillside.
Welcome aboard!

I do stack some of my cars in twos, each in its own baggie. The trick I've found is putting them bottom to bottom, so one car is upside down. That save a lot of space in a Jammer, at least with smaller cars (a lot of Tomica and Zylmex, and skinny stuff like Ford GT40s and Ferraris, this can be done pretty easily). Just gotta be careful not to try to force fit something, and be extra careful with convertibles. VW bugs are unique, they fit kinda catiwampus, but they will pair up if you get creative.
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I have all my 1:64 cars loose and in Jammers. I have been using the Jammers for at least 5 years and haven't seen any degradation of paint or reaction from rubber tires at all. They get moved around frequently too. The only concern I had was the extra wide cubby. I created a tri-folded piece of gray cardboard in the shape of an inverted "T". I used the cardboard that you would see on the back of a notepad or writing tablet.

I will keep an eye on things after reading this post. I have my duplicate pieces in the zip-loc craft bags that I purchased at Walmart. I'd hate to see them get funky too. I guess everything and anything won't last for ever.

Maybe I will invest in a climate controlled vault with special lighting, a nitrogen atmosphere and suspend all my cars from the ceiling with mono-filament. No wind, otherwise they might become wind chimes. I'll pipe in some music and have thick viewing potholes so I can see them from time to time.
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SLWPAR
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I'm liking everyones ideas and creativity so far! My favorite is the one provided by Juantoo3. I might try that out!
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MBX Madness
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Here is what I have done. It is a little time consuming. It took me almost an entire weekend to complete. I have almost 80 Jammers cases.

I got some foam padding squares from a craft store. The type of padding used for pillows, etc.

I cut them into very small squares, as needed for each car or truck. Placed them in so each car is secure. They don't move, bounce around, nothing. It is soooo nice not to have them bumping around.

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Swifty
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I may have to try that! Though the prospect of going through all my Jammers is a terrifying task... There's just that many of them.
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May 10 2012, 03:24 PM
Try using some packing peanuts to hold them in place
That's what I'd do.
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Thought I would dredge this one up to see if any new ideals or changes in storage techniques have come up in the past 3 years.

I have used tissues, tissue paper, or paper towels to fully wrap cars in jammer type cases and cotton balls to fill space as needed for longer storage.

I have also used cotton pads to line storage cases in more daily type storage cases.

From out experience with antiques and paper colltectible, if you use tape to seall things up - remember the adhesive also off gases over time. The shiny scotch tape is also prone to changing color and turning to a sticky mess over time.
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