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Car of the Day: April 2, 2013; Lindberg '30 Packard 745 Sport Phaeton
Topic Started: Apr 2 2013, 12:09 AM (830 Views)
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Today's car of the day is Lindberg's 1930 Packard 745 (or 740) Sport Phaeton.


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Packard continued to develop more and more ostentatious cars throughout the Roaring Twenties and this 7th Series incarnation was released late in the summer of 1929. The Wall Street Crash of October 1929 very much spoiled the party and caused the Great Depression of the early 1930's. However, Packard decided to go even further upmarket in denial of the economic situation and introduced new V12 engined cars in '32 up to the war. However, the Seventh series straight 8 cars represented the iconic 1920's cars with the long hood and flowing fender lines. For 1931 (8th Series) Packard moved the cowl and windscreen forward by 5 inches to create more space inside but this left the hood and wings shorter. Consequently the 7th Series is the one to have for many. (Imagine an E-Type with a shorter bonnet?).



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For more information and pictures of the real car please visit: Packard 745 Sport Phaeton
and Packard 740 Sport Phaeton


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Sometimes it is frustrating trying to get COTD information on obscure cars in which not much information is easily accessible online. This was one of those cases. Wikipedia has no entry for the seventh series Packard (740 or 745), and it is not even mentioned in the general Packard entry on Wikipedia. Nevertheless, this small scale plastic model is a neat addition to a pre-war car collection.


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Packard made approx 1800 7-45 chassis in 1930 but as they were so big, most were bodied as limousines. 600 went to coachbuilders so the factory bodied 1200 themselves. Of these, only approx 75 were fitted with the Phaeton body (no side windows) and this represented the lightest body on the biggest chassis - truly a playboy's extravagance. This "lightweight" "sport phaeton" weighs in at 2200kg and 17 feet long, 145" wheelbase and returns....... 9 mpg!



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I think it is a neat model . I guess the reason it is getting difficult to find information is the generations that drove these cars are gone and a lot of papers they collected got tossed out.
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I didn't know this one was out there! And it is right up my alley! Gonna be hard to beat this one this week for me!
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A great pre-war classic from Packard. One of the cars that defined 'motoring' back in the day.
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A feature I find quite intriguing is that the rear seat is set far behind the rear doors. I have to wonder if the rear windshield and the body panel that extends between the top of the rear doors, lifted up toward the driver seat to allow passenger ingress and egress?
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Dean-O-mite
Apr 2 2013, 11:48 AM
the rear windshield and the body panel that extends between the top of the rear doors,
...makes this a dual cowl phaeton!
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What does that mean, exactly? Just that it has two windshields? Or what is under that body panel between the door?
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I have two of these - both with damaged windshields - that's seem to be one of the fragile points on these. It is a great model - really the only vintage car Mini Lindy did in the series - of course when this one came out there were still a few of the gentlemen around who owned Packards.
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Apr 2 2013, 07:17 PM
What does that mean, exactly? Just that it has two windshields? Or what is under that body panel between the door?
one of the definitions of "cowl:"

b : the top portion of the front part of an automobile body forward of the two front doors to which are attached the windshield and instrument board

Since the cowl is the part of the body that supports the windshield, and early "tub" bodies tended to be large and not particularly strong by today's standards, on something the size of an open phaeton touring car there needed to be some extra support in the middle of the body. Traditionally a phaeton was a ragtop that didn't even have side windows, so the only realistic support was to place a cross piece in the middle of the body. Since phaetons tended to be high end luxury items, often chauffeured, it only made sense to provide another windscreen for the rear passengers...a windscreen that also required support in the form of an additional cowling. So the second cowling, or dual cowl, served the purpose of strengthening the body on an open touring car.

I also found this:
Dual Cowl
A design of touring car, which saw the cab, divided into two compartments, front and rear, separated with a rear windshield mounted on a folding cowl which covers part of the rear compartment.

As for what is under the second cowl, it depends on the car and maker. On some there is actually a wall, something like a second firewall. Some there is nothing, just the flip up and out of the way top cowl piece. Then you have towncars (the original) which were chauffeured limousines with the chauffeur riding in an open section in the front and the patron or fare riding in a closed section in back...still technically a dual cowl, but not a phaeton.
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Thanks Wes! That helps! I figured it had to fold up out of the way.
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Apr 2 2013, 10:20 PM
- really the only vintage car Mini Lindy did in the series -
Based on prior experience, I am going to guess that the model I am about to mention will be a reminder for you, rather than a model you didn't know about. Seems like you have had nearly every small-scale car ever made, at some point in time! :)
I do also have the Lindberg (Mini-Lindy) 1929 Mercedes-Benz SSK 20 Roadster.
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Apr 2 2013, 11:18 PM
pjedsel
Apr 2 2013, 10:20 PM
- really the only vintage car Mini Lindy did in the series -
Based on prior experience, I am going to guess that the model I am about to mention will be a reminder for you, rather than a model you didn't know about. Seems like you have had nearly every small-scale car ever made, at some point in time! :)
I do also have the Lindberg (Mini-Lindy) 1929 Mercedes-Benz SSK 20 Roadster.
:D Thanks for the reminder, Dean - indeed another one of those "senior moments". I do indeed have the '29 Mercedes Benz SSK Roadster.
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Apr 2 2013, 11:15 PM
Thanks Wes! That helps! I figured it had to fold up out of the way.
That's OK...wait until you see a Landaulet!
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New casting? Quick! Take it apart!
When I first saw the photos, I thought 2 things: First, what a pristine old Lindberg Dean has! It looks brand new! 2nd, I bet Wes is on the edge of his seat, because this type fits in with what he seems to like--high end town cars, limos, the elegant side of auto history.
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I want to like it, but the front bumper just looks awkward to me.
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A consession to what is, essentially, a toy. The real car was spectacular.
While I don't have a photo of a 700 series, here is a 640 from 1929. The bumpers would have been largely the same. I photographed this car at Rhinebeck NY in 2011.
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I missed this one somehow until I saw the voting for Car of the Week...I LOVE it! I voted for it. I'd vote for it again if I could. I want it big time! I've not got a single mini-lindy in my collection yet, now I know which one to chase after. Round 2 just bought Lindberg- the same company doing the Auto World line coming later this year- maybe they will reissue it :)
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