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| Kyosho merges whith Maisto/Bburgo?; Kyosho going down the tubes? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 22 2014, 11:32 PM (755 Views) | |
| Diecastmania | Jan 22 2014, 11:32 PM Post #1 |
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I recently was informed by my local diecast hobby shop that "Kyosho will be soon merging with Maisto and Bburago". Maisto will take over the hobby area of Kyosho, (i.e) Diecast and RC. Part of this was that "Kyosho will now be putting out the cheap stuff". I personally think this is tragic, kyosho put out some excellent RCs and Diecast (I have both). Cost may have been a huge factor, Kyosho puts out top notch diecast and RC, you get what you pay for. Not many people in this day and age want to pay that much for diecast. If you are wondering who exactly I got this info from. Last Saturday, I visited my local diecast hobby shop. And the manager struck a conversation with me. They were once a big and blossoming business, but have since downsized and now rely on selling toys to escape the massive dip in the premium diecast market. They have hook-ups with the industry. They were close friends with the owners of the now defunct GMP. They sell many high end 1:18s, Kyosho, Autoart, Greenlight, Diapet, Minichamps, Schuco, Bburago, Maisto, and some vintage diecast as well. |
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| speedyexpress48 | Jan 23 2014, 12:35 AM Post #2 |
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Doubt that Maisto will get the upper hand here. Kyosho is far more established and powerful while Maisto doesn't nearly have as much power, unlike Bburago which was literally bankrupt and dead in the water. Edited by speedyexpress48, Jan 23 2014, 12:36 AM.
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| juantoo3 | Jan 23 2014, 10:40 AM Post #3 |
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I don't know that I would doubt Maisto. Particularly with the recent losses of Yatming and High Speed, Maisto is about the only major player left contracting to any/everybody who wants a line of cheap diecast with their store brand on the package. The wild card is Loyal Bright, but they are up and coming where Maisto is well established for decades. Sounds like Maisto has some deep pockets and cash to spend, having bought (and some might say bungled) Muscle Machines...picking up Bburago and Kyosho may just be natural business of expansion. What they do with the expanded business is another story... |
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| Dean-o-mite | Jan 23 2014, 10:51 AM Post #4 |
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If true, this could be fantastic news for collectors. Especially if Maisto can fix the tire clearance issues that have plagued recent 1/64 Kyosho models. Most likely though, I would guess Maisto is far more interested in Kyosho's 1/18 casting bank, than the 1/64 stuff. |
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| toyotageek | Jan 23 2014, 11:25 AM Post #5 |
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Japanese Minicar Maniac
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Interesting if true. I haven't seen anything that would indicate this on the Japanese forums and sites I frequent. This deserves further investigation..... I know HPI has formally ended their resin line of 1/64 scale cars (which were some of the finest out there) to focus on their R/C products only. So there are changes in the air... Edited by toyotageek, Jan 23 2014, 11:27 AM.
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| gtr_5155 | Jan 23 2014, 01:29 PM Post #6 |
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Perhaps it is not an actual merger,but a distribution issue.Maisto does have better distribution than the others. As with everthing going on with diecast.......we'll just have to wait and see. |
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| toyotageek | Jan 23 2014, 01:51 PM Post #7 |
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Yeah, that's what I'm tending to think, that it's some sort of distribution merger. In the meantime, I sent off an email to Kyosho and am waiting to see how they might respond...
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| 250 TR | Jan 23 2014, 01:56 PM Post #8 |
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Definitely interesting if true. I would be surprised though if it has anything to do with their 1/64 line. I was told at some point, and could be wrong, that the 1/64 line is separate from their other lines, which is one of the big reasons that hobby dealers in the US can't get them. It will be interesting to see what develops, I wouldn't be surprised to see it go either way as far as being a good or bad thing. |
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| jedimario | Jan 23 2014, 02:51 PM Post #9 |
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I doubt it until I hear from a credible source. I've heard a lot of nonsense that ended up being false from dealer and retail employees at all levels. |
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| toyotageek | Jan 23 2014, 03:37 PM Post #10 |
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Ain't that the truth!
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| Diecastmania | Jan 23 2014, 04:21 PM Post #11 |
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Well, I don't really see a reason for the person to lie to me. They do have several Kyosho 1:18 and 1:64 models in stock and they are or WERE a Kyosho Official dealer. All they said is that they would be SOON be merging. It could mean a joint venture or distribution. Also, I think Maisto may be interested in Kyosho RC as Maisto tech RCs are meh. But the threat of watering down Kyosho is in the air. Just posting this as a heads up. You know, that kind of "don't be that surprised if it happens thing". I suggest taking it with a grain of salt as things can often get lost in translation (google translate japanese to english anyone). Until a public statement is released, we'll never know for sure. |
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| the_weatherman | Jan 23 2014, 05:59 PM Post #12 |
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Ugh, not a fan of this idea at all. Granted, Kyosho's had some issues with model quality and set distribution as of late (the tire size, of course, but an issue with the distribution channels for their newest Ferrari sets is just the latest example), but I can't see a whole lot of good coming out of a merger. I fear Kyosho's quality would go from inconsistent to outright poor. That being said, I'm not going to worry about it until someone gets a confirmation. Edited by the_weatherman, Jan 23 2014, 06:00 PM.
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| toyotageek | Jan 30 2014, 05:44 PM Post #13 |
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Finally got a reply from Kyosho America:
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