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What was the golden age for diecast?
Topic Started: Jan 26 2014, 11:11 AM (554 Views)
cody6268
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What was the "golden age" for diecast?
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What do you mean by "golden age" ? The Hotwheels/Johnny Lightning race wars happened in the early 70's, back when both were fairly new. Do you mean "playing with" by children, or "collecting" (by adults) in the terms of golden age? I'd say the golden age was when both were fairly new to the scene, Hotwheels displaced Lesney as a premier toy car, and JL came along and blew them away a few years later as the fastest of the diecast at the time. The competition heated up from then on. If you mean "collecting", well, I think Golden Ages have come and gone, some Renaissance's have happened as well. In terms of sheer volume of diecast available, I'd say the '90's to early 00's were the best of times for collectors. I was pretty much absent from the collecting scene from the mid-'80's until after '99, when I bought my first house, and moved out of a townhouse/apartment, and could really start collecting. So I can't give a balanced view of that time. But so many diecasts were available from 2000 on I gorged on them. Literally. Choices have shrunk since, with the demise of RC , JL, Majorette abandoning the American market for the most part, but other makers like GL, M2, and AW are on the scene, bringing us new choices. Another renaissance? Who knows. I was happy with the AMC's JL produced, and maybe no other company will produce that make again ( well, Motormax/Fresh Cherries did for awhile, 4 different AMCs ) , but one can hope. With the advent of 3D printers in the near future, a virtual EXPLOSION of new diecasts may develop, since obscure makes can probably be produced in low numbers yet still make money, and individuals may make important contributions to this market. Is the best yet to come? Who knows. I'm just riding the swells of the diecast ocean, sometimes high, sometimes low, but always moving. :)

Jerry
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Now. Technology continues to improve accuracy and detail while lowering cost, and the number of cars to be made in scale only increases as time goes by. There is no drop-off in model availability if you are willing to step outside Walmart, and all the die-cast that was available in the '90s and '00s is still available now- most of it cheaper or at least at the same price as it was back then.
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Jan 26 2014, 03:25 PM
Now. Technology continues to improve accuracy and detail while lowering cost, and the number of cars to be made in scale only increases as time goes by. There is no drop-off in model availability if you are willing to step outside Walmart, and all the die-cast that was available in the '90s and '00s is still available now- most of it cheaper or at least at the same price as it was back then.
I totally agree with Rob except the larger scales in diecast have jumped in price. My guess of that because of the sheer number of 1/64 scales produced compared to the 1/18 scale cars. The larger scale cars had lower production numbers therefore the price jump.
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Without a doubt.
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Dean-o-mite
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Oh wait, I think he must be asking about the release dates for the gold-plated Racing Champions cars.
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"Golden age" refers to a time when things were way better vs. now, like the Golden Age of rail travel. Stuff being released today are just as desirable as stuff released yesterday. Auto World has gotten me to collect stuff that I would NEVER buy, let alone pay $6 for. Autoart 1/18 keeps getting better and better (and as mentioned much pricier).

I can think of golden age of specific brands though, like Matchbox (early to mid 2000), and Tomica (inception right through mid 90s).
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I dunno, but I know Lesney was making a lot of Mbx through the 60's, like a million a week or something, and then HWs came along and was making a lot of their toy cars, so each made a lot of money, but there were also quite a number of collectors then, along with kids who managed to save many of those toy cars through the decades like collectors do.

Then I remember reading one time about how many millions of HWs each week that Mattel was producing during the 90's, a lot of kids and collectors must have loved them....ok, I'll admit I bought a lot of them then too. :D
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The answer will vary greatly according to the age of the person you're asking and when they grew up. Often we think of our own childhood years and the toys we had then as being the golden age for us. That stated, sometimes there's no other time like now. :thumbup: For terms of accuracy and model diversity it's really difficult to argue that the current time isn't the golden age. Never before have we had so many models of such wealth of models. Kyosho, Tomica LV, and many others have taken features once only seen on 1/24 models or larger and transported them to 1/64.

I'm not sure there's any one right or wrong answer.
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Jan 26 2014, 10:34 PM
Kyosho, Tomica LV, and many others have taken features once only seen on 1/24 models or larger and transported them to 1/64.
While this is true, it is also true that companies like Busch, Boley and EFE have taken those same details even further down to 1/76 and 1/87 scale. One needs only look at the Busch Hearse I've shown on occasion to wonder why 1/64 makers *usually* can't seem to get that level of detail while Busch can!
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IMHO; to me and 48 years on planet earth, the "golden age" of diecast was from the 1970's thru the late 1980's.
So many 1/64 diecast for sale, Corgi JR, MBX, HW, early JL, Playart, Majorette, Pocket Cars, Zylmex. It was a wonderland every visit to the store.
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Interesting subject with great replies.

With little to go on from the author my guess is that the sky is the limit so here is another chime for what its worth.

The "Golden age" for diecast is relative so there is no right or wrong answer.Its probably safe to say that we all have been in contact with a 1:1 car at some point in time.Some probably more than others lol. That said memories are built and passed down to future generations.If the youngsters are no longer interested in the hobby it will fade into the sunset.

On the same token collecting toy cars has morphed since the internet was born.Plenty of good has derived from it,however some of the changes are not so favorable to me.

Happy Collecting!

Eric
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Jan 27 2014, 01:46 PM
Interesting subject with great replies.

With little to go on from the author my guess is that the sky is the limit so here is another chime for what its worth.

The "Golden age" for diecast is relative so there is no right or wrong answer.Its probably safe to say that we all have been in contact with a 1:1 car at some point in time.Some probably more than others lol. That said memories are built and passed down to future generations.If the youngsters are no longer interested in the hobby it will fade into the sunset.

On the same token collecting toy cars has morphed since the internet was born.Plenty of good has derived from it,however some of the changes are not so favorable to me.

Happy Collecting!

Eric
Be careful calling them toy cars because some will describe them as adult collectibles even though most of their adult collectibles is found in the toy sections of the stores they go too......LOL

Your right there is no wrong or right answer because like someone said it depended on your age.
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James
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the 60's....... wait that was when I was buying Matchboxes like crazy and totall every one in a sandbox..... OK 2005 to 2010........ certainly not teh last 4 years..... it is pitiful here in PEI, MB' and HW's thats it, and mostly just mainline stuff.
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