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| Worried About A 1971 Cockney Cab | |
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| SeberHusky | Mar 20 2014, 05:09 AM Post #1 |
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Hello! I am still working on cataloging my cars (on the last box now), and while doing so, I found the Cockney Cab I bought last year. Now, when I got it, it was in mint condition, and there was a bidding war on it like crazy. When the smoke cleared, I walked away with it for $20 or something. Not that much money. However, when I washed it, and the time period afterwards ever since I got it, the paint was constantly flaking off in places, and it still is to this very day. I am skeptical that it is a restoration/repaint, but there is no evidence that it has been drilled or touched. I have a redline Deora that was buried in someone's backyard, chock full of dirt, and even on that one the paint does not come off at all like it does here. Is it actually real paint, or is it reproduction paint? The car is a magenta-ish color, my camera sucks at intense colors. ![]() ![]()
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| z28guy | Mar 20 2014, 08:54 PM Post #2 |
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I don't have an example of that casting to compare it with but it appears original. Age, heat and moisture can effect the paint. Some of the early castings and certain colors from the 60's and 70's are notorious for flaking paint. The White Rocket Bye Baby comes to mind. One of the Anniversary Twin Mills I gave 10.00 for back in the 90's still in the package has almost all of it's paint gone where it has flaked off. But then again with all the reproduction parts out there including rivits, spectraflame paint etc it's hard to tell for sure and some of these guys are really good at restoring redlines I won't buy a redline unless it has a very small defect to ensure it hasn't been restored. I'm leery if it's to perfect out of the blister. |
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| 69ch | Mar 20 2014, 09:08 PM Post #3 |
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It could be just the camera ... Do I see flecks of paint on the engine,base and windows ... Also there is a funny hue over the right rear wheel well ... From what my screen says so far I can not confirm or deny if the car is a repaint. Eric |
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| juantoo3 | Mar 20 2014, 10:09 PM Post #4 |
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There's a lot of truth here. I had a Deora from the 30th anniversary box set get a little damp (sprinkle rain) during a move, and within weeks it was flaking like mad, to the point I pulled it and put it in the parts bin. None of the rest were affected, but none of the rest got damp. There are so many variables. It is possibly a poor resto, but the paint quality made today is actually pretty decent...and if the guy is a good restorer, the model comes out looking better than new. My concern is the casting itself. Really hard to see in your pic, could just be normal toning, but it could also be water damage to the metal leaving little acne scars all over. If the problem is actually in the metal, there's not a lot you can do, and the paint is just a symptom. It could be bad paint, the enamels Matty used in the 70s was pretty fragile anyway, but you say it was nice when you bought...so rough handling I presume is not the culprit. It's really hard to say, and the pics are not the best. I think I see what Eric is talking about too, with the overspray (?) on the engine pipes, suggests an aftermarket resto, but if so then that is some really cheap paint. I'm leaning towards dampness / water damage. Where do you store it? |
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| 69ch | Mar 20 2014, 10:29 PM Post #5 |
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Paint appears enamel ... Not Spectra pink ... Again more pics would help. Eric |
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| SeberHusky | Mar 21 2014, 12:12 AM Post #6 |
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#1. It did not have any defect in the paint when I got it. It was all good. It hasn't moved since I bought it either. #2. I washed it and dried it when I first got it, as I do all my cars. I buy bulk lots, and often they are not collector owned. They will have play-dough, kool-aid, water stains, rust, mud, dirt, insects, etc. #3. That is not overspray. It's a reflection of the flashbulb light off the paint, because the paint is so shiny. #4. It's not enamel paint. As I said above my camera does not do neon or strange colors, so they show up differently. Hot pink is the absolute worst to try and capture. It is this same color: ![]()
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| 69ch | Mar 21 2014, 12:42 AM Post #7 |
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Ok Husky ... Hopefully when the cars are washed its with water and a mild soap at best. Honestly the Fleet Sky Show also appears "Rose" on my screen ... Yep Spectra colors can be difficult to capture my friend.That said document into your books an original HP Cockney Cab right ... Eric |
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| 69ch | Mar 21 2014, 01:09 AM Post #8 |
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Here is Hot Pink for the screen ...
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| SeberHusky | Mar 21 2014, 01:27 PM Post #9 |
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Yes, some cheap soap from the dollar store, never anything industrial. And I do not soak them. Just scrub them with a toothbrush and soap, run under the faucet a few times, shake dry, and then put under a heater for a few minutes. Gets them dry quickly, and the axles do not rust. |
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| 66alfa_gtv | Mar 22 2014, 12:09 AM Post #10 |
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I would never wash a vintage toy car. I use a soft brush used for shining shoes, something I learned from a friend at an antique store. |
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| SeberHusky | Mar 22 2014, 01:30 AM Post #11 |
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I don't pay exorbitant prices for mine, so it's no big deal. But it doesn't hurt them. As I mentioned before, I buy played-with cars fresh from the current toybox, or the forgotten one in the attic, so they are always dirty. Caked-on dirt. Or rust. Takes some soap and scrubbing to get them shining again. |
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