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Zylmex D102 Chevy C3500 Dually Crewcab
Topic Started: Sep 2 2014, 11:22 AM (1,450 Views)
GothicCarsUrban
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Yellow one is probably a 1988-1993 or so "Wild Cars" series release, red one is normal Dynawheels release. Was originally issued in 1984 under the "Renegades" series

There is a difference in these trucks' bases (shown in last pic).

Crude castings and not great proportioned, but this subject is not done much if at all in the 3-inch scales. (are you listening, Auto World and Greenlight?)

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Base on red truck has blanked out space for what I'm guessing is "(c) Zyll" as seen on early Dynawheels, yellow truck has the remains of a "Made in China" sticker with no blanked out "(c) Zyll" space and "Made in China" blanked out.

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I'm looking at getting some new diorama buildings suitable for vehicles that are large in real life, but scaled to 1/72 range or below as diecast (aka box-scaled like many JL, Zylmex, 70s/80s Tomica, etc), these will be fixtures in the builder's supply yard that I'm looking at

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Other than Hot Wheels' offering of the 1990's design, I don't recall ever seeing this truck done by anyone else.

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Sep 5 2014, 05:38 AM
Other than Hot Wheels' offering of the 1990's design, I don't recall ever seeing this truck done by anyone else.

I know that Action had done one in 1/64 scale and it is really nicely done. I just don't have one in the collection to show a picture of. I am also thinking that Ertl or Racing Champions has done one too but I could be mistaken.
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Thanks. Is the Action casting a 1973-91 model like my Zylmexes? Ertl did do a 1992-2000 or so version, but IIRC it was an extended cab and not a crewcab
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The Action/RCCA version would have been at least a mid to late '90's era model - usually sold with a NASCAR team trailer
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't really recall seeing many GM crew cabs from that era. Prior, I recall seeing Dodge and International, but they were usually special order for the government (i.e. military) or forest service or something like that...*very* few civilian models on the roads. I know GM duallys of that era came with stretch cabs, guy at work drove one for awhile...but crew cabs were not something often seen outside of government or heavy construction.

I drove a crew cab when I worked for a brief time with a commercial contractor in South Carolina, I recall that being a mid-80s, probably Chevy. It wasn't a dually per se, because it had the contractor boxes and ladder rack on the back, although it did have dually wheels.
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GothicCarsUrban
Sep 5 2014, 06:46 PM
Thanks. Is the Action casting a 1973-91 model like my Zylmexes? Ertl did do a 1992-2000 or so version, but IIRC it was an extended cab and not a crewcab
Here is a borrowed pic from ebay of the Action Chevy Dually.

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The yellow version actually came out first. Early versions had the name "Chevy Big Dooley" cast underneath the D102. That name was blocked over, as seen on your yellow version, and then later, the "Made In China" was casted on top of the block. In the 1990's, when the GM castings were forced to be altered because GM wanted licensing fees, this pickup got a new front end with single, non-GM headlights, and that seemed to be enough to keep the lawyers at bay.

As for the real truck, crew cab Chevy pickups were common in the 1980's, which is what this Zylmex represents. The rectangular headlights replaced the round headlights on the 1980 refresh of the C/K pickups, according to Wikipedia. Here are two of the many pictures I found in a google image search.
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And my group of Zylmex pickups:
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Great info Dean, and a superb line-up of variations :thumbup: Did the A-pillar get removed from the casting at the same time as the headlamps/grille change? I never noticed there were 2 versions of the casting...
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Thanks. Recently spotted a 1/1, 1975-79 or so version of this on the side of a gravel road, and a few music videos by Doug Supernaw in the early 90s featured a 1983-87, red & white, fairly well-used (especially smashed rear dually fender, front-end damage and missing tailgate) 1/1 version of this generation dually (was his in real life and repossessed in 1997 after Supernaw missed 2 bare-bones payments on it, I was FB friends with him before he went off the skids), planning on making one of these into that truck.
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This looks remarkably like the one I drove if you take off the bed, put ladder racks and tool boxes over the rear wheels on what was essentially a flatbed. White with a green stripe and the Apple Tree Contractors logo. Good times that were far too short, hands down my favorite construction job.
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They have a bit of a squashed appearance proportionally, but Zylmex is interesting nonetheless. Plus it's always interesting to have variations on obscure, or little done castings. And seeing the variety of paint schemes in Dean's pic, I would say this is a worthy diecast venture to pursue.

I've never been a collector of a lot of the same castings. In the past, I've preferred trying to get a larger variety and choosing my favorite color scheme. Sometimes that was due to a shortage of funds. And I've frequently regretted not getting more of some of my favorite casting. I'm thinking I may change that up a bit--possibly beginning with AW. Since they are relatively new and don't have all that many versions, it's a nice place to get in on the ground floor with some nicely detailed castings.

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juantoo3
Sep 5 2014, 08:23 PM
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't really recall seeing many GM crew cabs from that era. Prior, I recall seeing Dodge and International, but they were usually special order for the government (i.e. military) or forest service or something like that...*very* few civilian models on the roads. I know GM duallys of that era came with stretch cabs, guy at work drove one for awhile...but crew cabs were not something often seen outside of government or heavy construction.
Crew cabs had been around for quite a while. Most were aftermarket conversions from such companies as Orville. International Harvester was the 1st company to sell a factory built crew cab called which they called the Travelette in 1957. Dodge offered their factory crew cab in 1963, Ford in 1968 and GM followed in 1973.
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Thanks for the history bit on crew cabs, Zach. Got to see some Action and Ertl duallies at work today, very impressive... not the square-body 1973-91 tho. HW's Chevy COE crewcab is an Orville or Gerstenslager coachbuilt body as mostly seen on fire engines. :)

AW, M2 or GL needs to make the IH and Dodge crewcabs, as well as accurate 1973-87 GMC and Chevy in different styles, Gentleman Jim, Beau James, Outdoorsman, Heavy Half, Desert Fox and Gypsy Traveler pickups and SUVs, and regular pickup, dually pickup and flatbed/utility bed dually, Blazer/Jimmy and Suburban.
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Sep 6 2014, 03:38 AM
Did the A-pillar get removed from the casting at the same time as the headlamps/grille change? I never noticed there were 2 versions of the casting...
Yes, it did! Good eye - that was a detail I hadn't picked up on until you pointed it out. The purple and yellow race versions, missing the wing-window casting bar, are the two with the "generic" modified front end.

Technical difficulties kept me from being able to show this picture in a more timely manner, but here is a comparison picture of the two front ends, finally.

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Dean-o-mite
Sep 9 2014, 01:00 PM
Mikey 1/64
Sep 6 2014, 03:38 AM
Did the A-pillar get removed from the casting at the same time as the headlamps/grille change? I never noticed there were 2 versions of the casting...
Yes, it did! Good eye - that was a detail I hadn't picked up on until you pointed it out. The purple and yellow race versions, missing the wing-window casting bar, are the two with the "generic" modified front end.

Technical difficulties kept me from being able to show this picture in a more timely manner, but here is a comparison picture of the two front ends, finally.

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Is it just me, or does that grille design on the purple version look a lot like a Ford Ranger?

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