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TOMYTEC Mazda Cosmo Sport; The Japanese Car Era vs LV-169
Topic Started: Jan 6 2018, 12:06 AM (275 Views)
toyotageek
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After I had posted a photo of my most recent box from Japan, which included some Tomica Limited Vintage models, 250 TR asked me about the Mazda Cosmo.

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250 TR
Jan 4 2018, 01:42 AM
If you're able to, can you do a side by side comparison of the new white Mazda Cosmo with the one they released several months ago? I'm curious what the differences are.


I was curious also, so I took a bunch of photos and did a little research.


The Japanese Car Era Vol. 11 - http://www.tomytec.co.jp/minicar/lineup/set/set16.html

TOMYTEC (Google Translate)
 
A number of famous cars appeared, and it can be said to be a vintage year of Japanese cars in 1967.
Among them, the important model is Mazda Cosmo Sports equipped with the world's first two-rotor rotary engine.
Cosmo sports sent out after the development period of 6 years from the basic development of the engine was released on May 30, 1967. I made the unknown power known as a rotary engine to the world.
It is May 50 years later.
To celebrate the 50th anniversary of the birth of the rotary engine, we will manufacture the early model with short wheelbase and small front grill with new metal mold.
Mazda Co., Ltd., a manufacturer, took a rest for the 100th anniversary of its founding and reproduced details specific to this individual such as late model wheels and export specification emblems.

In addition, as a historical significance modeling this car model, the engine is reproduced. I get close to the feeling of drifting on a real car.

Product name: The Japanese Car Era Vol. 11 Mazda Cosmo Sports
Release date: May 2017
Price: 2,800 yen (excluding tax)



LV-169 - http://www.tomytec.co.jp/minicar/lineup/tlv/lv169.html

TOMYTEC (Google Translate)
 
To celebrate the 50th anniversary of Mazda's rotary engine car, "Japan car age Vol. 11 Mazda Cosmo Sports" which was released in May was well received thanks to you.
This time we will introduce 2 new specs.
White was restored in Mazda, making it a somewhat brighter color than the "age of Japanese cars" which matched colors with actual cars stored.
Red is the specification that was exhibited at the 1967 Tokyo Motor Show, and the inside of the headlight case and the wiper are black.
Of course, both are reproducing hood opening and closing, 10A type rotary engine.

Product name: LV-169a, b Mazda Cosmo Sports (White) / (Red)
Release date: December 2017
Price: Each 2,600 yen (excluding tax)


There was an early and late production model of the Mazda Cosmo Sports. The TLV models are all 1967 models, the early version L10A.

Wikipedia "MAZDA COSMO"
 
Series L10A/L10B (1967–1972)

The first Mazda to bear the Cosmo name (called the 110S on models intended for export) was (along with the NSU Ro80) one of the first production cars to feature a 2-rotor Wankel engine. A prototype was presented at the 1964 Tokyo Motor Show, one month before the 1964 Summer Olympics, and after the introduction of the NSU Spider at the Frankfurt Motor Show; 80 pre-production Cosmos were produced for the Mazda test department (20) and for dealership testing (60) between 1965 and 1966. Full production began in May 1967 and lasted through 1972, though Cosmos were built by hand at a rate of only about one per day, for a total of 1,176 (343 Series I cars and 833 Series II cars). The car was also featured in the show The Return of Ultraman.

Series I
The Series I/L10A Cosmo was powered by a 0810 two-rotor engine with 982 cc of displacement and produced about 110 hp (thus the 110 name). It used a Hitachi four-barrel carburetor and an odd ignition design—two spark plugs per chamber with dual distributors. A four-speed manual transmission and 14-inch wheels were standard.

In Japan, the installation of a rotary engine gave Japanese buyers a financial advantage when it came time to pay the annual road tax in that they bought a car that was more powerful than a traditional inline engine, but without having the penalty for having an engine in the higher above-one-litre tax bracket.

The front suspension was a coil-sprung double-wishbone design with an anti-roll bar. The rear used a leaf-sprung de Dion tube. Unassisted 10 inch (254 mm) disk brakes were found in front with 7.9 inches (201 mm) drum brakes in the rear. Performance in the quarter-mile (400 m) was 16.4 s, with a 115 mph (185 km/h) top speed. The price was lower than the Toyota 2000GT at 1.48 million yen (US$4,100).

Series II
The Series II/L10B was introduced in July 1968. It had a more-powerful 128 hp (95 kW)/103 lb·ft (140 N·m) 0813 engine, power brakes, 15 inch wheels and a 5-speed manual transmission. The wheelbase had been expanded by 15 inches (38.1 cm) for more room and a better ride. This Cosmo was good for over 120 mph (193 km/h) and could accelerate to cover a quarter-mile (400 m) in 15.8 seconds.

Visual changes included a larger grille under the front bumper with two additional vents to each side of this "mouth". Only 833 were ever made, and fewer than six Series II models were initially imported into the United States. The price was up a bit to 1.48 million yen (US$4,390).

Series L10A/L10B Overview
Production1967–1972

DesignerHeiji Kobayashi, Kenichi Yamamoto

Body and chassis
Body style:2-door coupé
Layout:front engine, rear drive

Powertrain
Engine:982cc 0810 (Series I), 110hp; 982cc 0813 (Series II), 130hp
Transmission:4-speed manual; 5-speed manual

Dimensions
Wheelbase: 2,200 mm (86.6 in)
Length: 4,140 mm (163.0 in)
Width: 1,595 mm (62.8 in)
Height:1,165 mm (45.9 in)
Curb weight:940 kg (2,072.3 lb)

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There are some minor differences between the The Japanese Car Era model and the LV-169 (from here on I will note the Japanese Car Era version simply as JCE model).

The most notable difference is the color. The JCE model is more of a cream, while the LV-169a is white. The JCE model matched colors with actual cars stored by Mazda, while the LV-169a depicts cars restored by Mazda, making it a somewhat brighter color.

Another difference is the emblem located on the upper left front nose panel. the JCE model emblem reads 110S, which was used for export models, while the LV-169a emblem reads Cosmo, which was used for domestic models.

There is also a difference in the wheels, or wheel covers.

Other than that, there isn't a lot of difference. But it's the small minute details like this that make me love the TOMYTEC models.

And now, here's the pictures... In most of the pictures the JCE model is on the left and the LV-169a is on the right.

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Different wheel covers.

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Different emblems.

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110S emblem

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Cosmo emblem

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toyotageek
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And, lets not forget the red version, LV-169b. Red is the specification that was exhibited at the 1967 Tokyo Motor Show.

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Photos are of LV-169a and LV-169b

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pjedsel
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:thumbup: :drool: :thumbup: :drool: Need I say more. Very nice models of the Cosmo Sport.
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250 TR
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Awesome! Thanks for the comparison. I like the Cosmo lettering better than the 110S lettering. Part of it is probably the brighter white it stands out more, but the 110S is so small that it took me awhile to realize it was actual script when I got mine, and not a scratch on the hood.
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jurcpa
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fantastic pictures ,received last week from HK and thanks to Tomica ,please more Isuzu KIA and Ssangyoung cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PENSNO1
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Excellent information and comparisons Michael! Very interesting.

The only Cosmo I have is the from the standard Tomica line made in Japan.

The Cosmo being in Ultraman brought back memories of watching that show after school as a kid.

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toyotageek
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Jan 6 2018, 07:50 AM
Excellent information and comparisons Michael! Very interesting.

The only Cosmo I have is the from the standard Tomica line made in Japan.

The Cosmo being in Ultraman brought back memories of watching that show after school as a kid.
Would you have any pictures of the front end, specifically the grill area under the front bumper?

I'm curious if this casting depicts the late model Cosmo?
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Werny
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There are more castings, I guess - not as beautiful as the Limited Vintage items


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toyotageek
Jan 6 2018, 12:12 AM
And, lets not forget the red version, LV-169b. Red is the specification that was exhibited at the 1967 Tokyo Motor Show.

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Photos are of LV-169a and LV-169b

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are there also some TLV-169 <c> & <d> items made?

maybe they also did a green one?

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Werny
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the TLV-165a (Hiroshima?) police car


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are there 165 b-c-d variations?
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pjedsel
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:thumbup: Wow! Liking the police and fire dept. versions that have been shown!
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toyotageek
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Werny
Jan 6 2018, 02:18 PM
are there also some TLV-169 <c> & <d> items made?

maybe they also did a green one?

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This green car is a late model Cosmo (1968-1972). You can tell by the enlarged 'grill' area under the front bumper. The early model looks different. I think the regular Tomica Mazda Cosmo Sport depicts the late model car, and if Tomytec sticks to what they have said, they won't make cars that have already been made.... so we shouldn't expect to see a late model TLV Cosmo. This is why I asked if PENSNO1 (or anyone) can show a picture of the regular Tomica front end - I want to see what the bumper/grill looks like.


As for a TLV169 c or d, or TLV165 b-c-d... there haven't been any announcements yet (that I'm aware of).
Edited by toyotageek, Jan 7 2018, 12:52 AM.
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Jan 6 2018, 12:35 PM
PENSNO1
Jan 6 2018, 07:50 AM
Excellent information and comparisons Michael! Very interesting.

The only Cosmo I have is the from the standard Tomica line made in Japan.

The Cosmo being in Ultraman brought back memories of watching that show after school as a kid.
Would you have any pictures of the front end, specifically the grill area under the front bumper?

I'm curious if this casting depicts the late model Cosmo?
Here you go Mike,

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toyotageek
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Thank Rick!

Yes indeed, the regular Tomica casting is the late model Cosmo!
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microbuss
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I don't think it was imported to the USA
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Jan 11 2018, 01:31 PM
cool car
I don't think it was imported to the USA
Correct, but a few still managed to make it here.


Jason Cammisa
 
Series 1 Cosmos destined for sale outside of Japan received only “110S” badging, which referred to the car’s 110-hp (gross) engine, a 982-cc, twin-rotor Wankel. Only 343 of these cars were built in 1967 and 1968. The Series 2 Cosmo debuted in mid-1968, essentially the same car with a six-inch wheelbase stretch, a five-speed transmission in place of the former four-speed, and an additional 18 hp. Some 1176 Series 2 cars were built. Neither version was officially imported to the United States, and all Cosmos were right-hand drive.
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i like these types of posts because they share so much knowledge.
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Werny
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@ least one is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUUzDKnPhc
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Jan 6 2018, 02:05 PM
There are more castings, I guess - not as beautiful as the Limited Vintage items


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but you will need one of these 125 000 usd

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/mazda/cosmo/1871377.html


to make one of those fire department cars in 1:1 :lol:
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