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| COMPARISON: CADILLAC ELDORADO; JOHNNY LIGHTNING & TOMICA PREMIUM | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 8 2018, 01:53 PM (588 Views) | |
| toyotageek | Apr 8 2018, 01:53 PM Post #1 |
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Japanese Minicar Maniac
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Let's take a comparison look at the Johnny Lightning MiJo Exclusive 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible and the Tomica Premium Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz![]() 20180407_181130 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Johnny Lightning MiJo Exclusive 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible - limited to 3600 models; custom gloss pink; opening hood; no scale indicated, but advertised as 1/64; made in China; online prices vary $6 to $8 or more Interesting copyright on base p 2018 TOMY International, Inc. & 2018 Round 2, LLC ![]() 20180407_181150 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica Premium Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz - scale 1/75; working suspension; plastic base; body metal and plastic; made in Vietnam; online prices vary $7 to $8 or more ![]() 20180407_181236 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 2018-04-08_11-18-50 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr JL on the left, Tomica on the right ![]() 20180407_181503 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 20180407_181523 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 20180407_181653 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 20180407_181626 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 20180407_181834 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica top, JL bottom ![]() 20180407_181802 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica ![]() 20180407_181550 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr JL ![]() 20180407_181531 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica ![]() 20180407_181924 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr JL ![]() 20180407_181910 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr JL ![]() 20180407_182059 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica ![]() 20180407_181844 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr JL ![]() 20180407_181900 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Please feel free to discuss... As for me, I think they are both nice. You can definitely feel the weight difference as the JL is much heavier. Each has a little something that the other is missing. Combine all the good elements of both and you'd have a really great model. Edited by toyotageek, Apr 8 2018, 03:07 PM.
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| tksjohn | Apr 9 2018, 03:39 PM Post #2 |
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Station Wagon
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Thanks for the great detailed pictures, they made an interesting comparison. Do you think you might be able to post a picture of each base? The Round 2 on the bottom of the Tomica you mentioned greatly sparked my interest! |
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| Swifty | Apr 9 2018, 08:08 PM Post #3 |
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The Mustang II is a Mustang too!
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The Tomica is beautiful! I need to acquire one! |
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| toyotageek | Apr 9 2018, 11:48 PM Post #4 |
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Japanese Minicar Maniac
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Tomica on top, Johnny Lightning on bottom ![]() 20180409_193632 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Tomica ![]() 20180409_193525 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr Johnny Lightning ![]() 20180409_193435 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr ![]() 20180409_193449 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr |
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| tksjohn | Apr 11 2018, 09:54 AM Post #5 |
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Station Wagon
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Thank you for posting those pictures! I'm very curious as to why Tomy is on the bottom of the JL. I thought Round 2 took back over all of the JL castings from Tomy. The castings itself are completely different, so it just makes me wonder
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| jedimario | Apr 11 2018, 10:42 AM Post #6 |
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Not at all a fan of the Tomica. It's too short and just doesn't capture the essence ofnthe real car. |
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| toyotageek | Apr 11 2018, 11:28 PM Post #7 |
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Japanese Minicar Maniac
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The plot thickens... Maybe Tomy has retained the rights to some or all the castings? I never checked any other models. Is anyone from JL/AW/Round 2 active on FB or Instagram? They'd really be the ones to ask. |
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| juantoo3 | Apr 16 2018, 05:35 PM Post #8 |
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Curiouser and curiouser. I too, understood Round 2 to regain control of the former Playing Mantis era JL tools, with "permission" to use the Racing Champions and Ertl tools. From what I see shown here, it appears TOMY made the wise move to "lease" the tools (they wouldn't have used them anyway), and who better to lease to than Tom Lowe / Round 2? This way they keep intellectual control, and probably get a cut of production costs as well...and that goes far to explain the leap in price from $3 to $6. I want to like the Tomica, it does have some details that are nicely done, and others that seem incomplete. As Rob said, it also appears on the short side, but that is hard to gauge freehand...they are monstrous cars, but the JL seemed possibly a bit on the long side. This from the guy who collects the mainline HW which is proportioned like a toothpick. Without getting out a micrometer and a calculator and doing some quick math it is hard to say which is more accurate proportionally. Both have detail pluses and minuses. If I were forced to choose, it would be based purely on sentiment for the JL. I can appreciate the Tomica as another noble attempt to capture this iconic American Dreamboat in scale. So, trying to be objective, I would call it a tie. |
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| Dean-o-mite | Apr 17 2018, 04:11 PM Post #9 |
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Correct; Tomy still holds the rights to all Round 2 brands including Johnny Lightning, Racing Champions and Ertl. I hadn't realized this wasn't more widely known or I'd have made a better effort to inform. Tom Lowe has the exclusive contract to utilize the castings, so you won't see them used elsewhere. |
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| toyotageek | Apr 18 2018, 12:05 AM Post #10 |
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Japanese Minicar Maniac
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Dean, how could you have not told us this before! But now I want to know, how do you know this pertinent information? Did you read it somewhere, or have a conversation with Mr. Lowe? Curious minds, well, at least my mind, wants to know.
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| Dean-o-mite | Apr 18 2018, 12:36 AM Post #11 |
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Jeff Koch, with his insider connections, was the one who told me a bit about the negotiations between Lowe and the powers that be at Tomy. Tomy wouldn't give up the brands but were easily convinced to let the castings be leased and produced. The Tomy info has been printed on the bases of the re-born JL cars, as well as noted on the packaging, since the beginning of the revival. |
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| tksjohn | Apr 18 2018, 03:32 PM Post #12 |
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Very interesting. Something I've not paid close attention to, but thanks for clearing this up! |
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| toyotageek | Apr 19 2018, 12:26 AM Post #13 |
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Thanks for the intel Dean!
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Dean, how could you have not told us this before!
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